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An insider's view of the OOL technical support call center. I am an OOL techical support representative and I've created this blog to give you an insight into the workings of the call center as well as help you get inside the mind of the guy who is helping you.

Wednesday, August 17, 2005

Statistics

Have you ever felt rushed off the phone like the tech is just blowing you off? Have you been told you were in an outage but called later to find out you weren’t? Has a tech ever referred you to a router/OS/PC vendor when the actual problem was on our side? Has a tech ever hung up on you “accidentally” after about 10 minutes? It might not have been incompetence, it may have been the need for the tech to meet management’s unreasonable goals.

As stated in a previous post, the holy grail of management is the call center’s ASA, or Average Speed of Answer. EVERYTHING the tech does affects the ASA so management watch the techs like a hawk. As soon as you walk in the door, management has you under a microscope. Even the time you spend taking a dump is recorded. And any deviation from their specs are met with a heavy hand.

When your shift starts you sign into your phone and you immediately start to Idle. Idle is bad. Very, very bad. Too much Idle time and you will feel the iron fist of management. But you need time to log into your PC and then start up and sign into the 10 applications you need to do your job. Lucky for us we have a special code we can put in the phone that allows us Sign In time. Don’t go over 5 minutes though! Of course management only implemented that sign in time after a class action lawsuit was settled. Before that you had to be at your desk, and signed in (which takes about 10 minutes) BEFORE YOUR SHIFT STARTED. When your shift started you had better be ready to take a call immediately (or feel the iron fist). That this was wrong was brought up numerous times to management, but they ignored it until the lawsuit was filed.

Now you are signed in, management is watching carefully. Your entire day consists of idle time,call Time,hold time and wrap time. Call time is the amount of time you spend on the call with the customer. Hold time is the time the customer spends on hold. Wrap time is the time after the customer hangs up and before you hit the Ready button to take another call.

Management is oh so generous with breaks, for an 8.5 hour shift, we get two 15 minutes breaks and a 30 (unpaid) minute lunch. THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM REQUIRED BY LAW. Yep, along with those crappy-ass monitors, Cablevision never fails to go the extra mile for us techs!!!

Let’s not forget personal time. Again management shows their generosity by allowing us a whopping 8 minutes of personal time. So, you've got an upset stomach today and have to use the bathroom frequently or take too long doing so? Or take a couple of quick cigarette breaks? Don't worry, you’ll hear about it and it will affect you at raise time. Once, I was sick and took a while in the bathroom. A supervisor actually sent a lead to find me. They weren't concerned about my health, they were concerned I was away from my desk for 10 minutes.

But management is most concerned with Call Time,hold time and wrap time. Those are the most important numbers when it comes to your evaluation. Management’s Call time goal is 9 minutes and 30 seconds. Although I’ve heard from a lying sack of shit manager that this stat does not affect your rating, I’ll believe that when a flock of pigeons fly out of my ass.

Management is very short sighted about Call time. As a competent responsible tech, I’d rather answer all the customer’s questions, and spend the extra time to avoid them calling back. As an example, a customer wants to setup his email for himself and his wife. A tech drinking the management kool-aid would setup the customer’s email in Outlook Express and then tell the customer to do the same thing he did and setup his wife’s email himself. Of course this customer will call back after being unable to figure out what to do. Although the tech met management’s goal for his call time, he created an extra call for the customer. Even worse are the techs (encouraged by some supervisors), that just tell the customer to use Webmail. OOL is a POP shop, it is not IMAP. Email is designed to be temporarily held on the OOL servers, there is no backup, no disaster recovery and you know how I feel about the BISC. DO NOT USE WEBMAIL AS YOUR PRIMARY EMAIL ACCESS!!!

Techs are setup to fail when it comes to the other stats, hold time and wrap time. These goals (30 seconds each) were instituted long before OV. They may have been reasonable when you only had OOL calls but they are unrealistic for OV calls. First of all, we have the issue of the lack of available leads or floor walkers covered previously . The longer it takes to get your questions answered, the longer your hold time is. And OV calls often require you to put the customer on hold and verify the problem by calling other numbers. This may also require a walk to the Comm Desk to use some of the special phones there (Simplifying things, if a customer is in a 973 area code and is having problems calling 973 numbers you can use one of the 973 area code phones at the Comm Desk. If you are doing your job correctly, there is no way in hell you can keep your hold under 30 seconds.

Wrap time is one of the most problematic of all the stats. Management expects us to be able to detail everything about a call as we are talking to the customer. This is why when you say something to a tech, he pauses, you hear typing in the background and then he may ask you another question or ask you to clarify or repeat your statement. But there are a number of issues that cannot be resolved on the phone, they might have to be escalated. In that case, you get all the info from the customer and then after they hang up, you have to document all the customers details into the ticket you are escalating. Or you might have to fill out a web form with about 20 different pieces of info. In a competent company you might think all these tools are linked and can talk to each other, but we are speaking about Cablevision.. Everything is cut and paste. One big problem with techs needing to match the Wrap time is that they skimp on the details in the ticket or even just blow off escalating it. Even worse are the techs that don't bother to save a ticket. No ticket means no wrap time! So if you ever call in and the tech tells you there is no record that you called before this may be the reason why. Having a short wrap time encourages techs to be brief on their documentation and that will hinder the next tech if you call in again, he will have to start from scratch with you.

But the statistic that weighs the most on a tech's performance has nothing to do with being technical or even the success of a tech with your problem. It is concerned only with how the customer is spoken to. Next to their precious ASA, this is what Management pays the most attention. That's right, they don't care if the tech helps you, they just care that the tech speaks the proper phrases. It's called BPA and I'll cover it another day.

With these "goals", management is thinking they are running an efficient call center but if you look deeper at true customer service you see that results do not match the numbers. Management is simply shooting themselves in the foot.

But why should they want to reduce calls? Fewer calls mean less staff means less responsibility which means a smaller bonus. It is in management's best interest (and thus the tech's) to have a customer call in 3 times over 3 days for <10 minutes each at different times of the day instead of having 1 30 minute call. Less call time, less wrap time and less hold time. It's the Cablevision way, everyone wins but the customer......

54 Comments:

At 3:21 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I certainly feel for you... i also am a csr for another cable company in CT.. I certainly understand this about the stats on each call.. although my company doesnt mind on how long you are on the call, they do care about your wrapup time, how long your on hold with the lead desk.. yadda yadda yadda.. having also worked for a dialup internet service provider, I have always put the customer first.. that is why my stats hurt alot of the time.. I want the customer fixed the first time so they dont have to call again.. all my stats are great except in my production stats.. well below the mark.. so I completely know where you are coming from...

Keep up the good work.. I like this blog alot.

 
At 12:29 PM, Blogger suntexnik said...


unable to figure out what to do. Although the tech met management’s goal for his call time, he created an extra call for the customer. Even worse are the techs (encouraged by some supervisors), that just tell the customer to use Webmail. OOL is a POP shop, it is not IMAP. Email is designed to be temporarily held on the OOL servers, there is no backup, no disaster recovery and you know how I feel about the BISC. DO NOT USE WEBMAIL AS YOUR PRIMARY EMAIL ACCESS!!!


well here is an idea for you, there are job opennings at the BISC right now.

Apply and maybe you'll show these idiots how it's done ;o)

 
At 6:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me tell you about stats. Supposedly any tech can get promoted to grade 14 and get an increase if they meet goals for 4 out of 6 months. What we are told is they calculate an average of all stats rolled into a spread sheet. Some of the stats are called Critical drivers, such as BPA scores, desktop streaming usage, wrap time. Now if what they say is really true, if you meet all critical drivers for 6 months strait, and hit the other stats for at least 4 out of six months then its a slam dunk and a grade level promotion with a raise. Well heres what happened to me. I hit every catogory with a bullseye for 6 strait months, except for one. Adherence and availability. These were not even critical drivers and i did score 4 out of 6 months with those 2 catagories. Needless to say I was denied the promotion with availability and adherence being the lame excuse. Now think about this, they told us we only have to score on an average in all catagories for 4 out of 6 months to get the promotion. No single catagory is supposed to kill your chance. Well with the big one, BPA I scored outstanding, as I had mastered to art of taming BPA monitors, I scored outstanding with technical monitors, I hit all dept goals for wrap, hold, talk time, exceeded with my excessive usage of desktop streaming. I hit all of these with a bullseye 6 strait months. The availability and adherence was a hair below goal for 2 out of 6 months. By my understanding of averages it looks to me like i scored a win and a well deserved raise. But no, the powers that be at TSG have a private club and I wasnt invited. Of course I didnt work as hard as the other grade 14's and decorators and waitresses in TSG. You know, the ones you always see sitting in a supervisors cubicle, or shooting the bull with management. Well management knew full well that I have a herniated disk and cant sit for extended periods of time without movement. They refused to provide me with an ergonomicly correct chair, even though I supplied them with perscription from my orthopedic. Oh, there are people that have better chairs, but my doctors note didnt qualify me for one. My only offense was the need to get up once every 90 minutes. I never worked in a place where they time your bathroom visits. Considering that I have a verifiable disability, it looks to me like management violated my rights. They have to make the environment suitable for employees, not the other way around. No doubt about it, I was denied a promotion for having a back problem that inconveninced them. My NEED to have a decent chair to sit on, my need to get up a minute or two every 90 or so minutes should never should have been used to deny me something I worked hard for. I was told point blank by my supervisior that my "excessive" use of personal time disqualified me from the grade 14 posistion. In other words, " we dont care about your health problems Fred, sit there and dont move, take call after call and stretch at your work station". I'm definalty researching to see if I was discriminated against for my disability.

 
At 2:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aww... Fred cant you keep your rhetoric to your pro-union board instead if infecting this one

 
At 5:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's up ass clown superviors that moved up by being rats/informants for management........I am not Fred, but I know who you are ass clown, not worth the dust on my PC tough guy....kissing up to that Nazi party called management...shame on you. You must really love what you do, even your brother-in-law left that shithole. Don't think you would make it anywhere else with your arrogant, bullshitting attitude, my nephew knows more than you about computers and networks....keep kissing ass, your co-workers will hang you out to dry anywhere else rat.

 
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At 9:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's face it, everyone hates this company, including their own employees..LOL...see you all soon,

your local Verizon tech.

 
At 10:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

verizon tech...

ya should have taken the buyout.... Your company is just as bad as ours.

Take care.

 
At 10:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"ya should have taken the buyout"

THERE IS NO BUYOUT. Just Security escorting off the company property.

 
At 2:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Verizon Tech

When is Fios coming to Freeport? I cant wait to smash my Cable modem with a sledge hammer, and leave Cablevision behind.

 
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At 3:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

verizon Tech said

Our company as bad as yours, Oh I think not, and not from what I hear. You see I love my job and I love what I do, I get paid very well and have been doing this over 10 years. I was waiting for this time to come. I have been listening to people complain for years about cable and the rising cost there was nowhere to turn...but now....a change is a comin Cable losers'

 
At 8:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing how a Verizon Technician is almost "competing" with the OOL Techs. I know for a fact as much as Cablevision hears "I'm switching to Verizon!", Verizon hears "I'm switching to Cable!". So honestly, I don't wanna hear any of that crap

Secondly Cablevision does pay quite well, and a grade 13 Tech prolly gets paid more than you, AND you've been at the company for 10 years.

But shoving that all aside, all in all. Everyone hates the company they work for, no one truly loves there job, unless they own a Multi-Million dollar corporation. So the tale of who's better, who's job sucks more. Can honestly go on forever and ever. Like the blogger says...

"An insider's view of the OOL technical support call center. I am an OOL techical support representative and I've created this blog to give you an insight into the workings of the call center as well as help you get inside the mind of the guy who is helping you."

Not to sit around and argue why the job sucks, or which ISP is better.

"Everyone take care of yourselves, and each other" -Jerry Springer

 
At 10:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

verizon tech

Does your cable tech make 32.50 an hr??? plenty of overtime to boot..I highly doubt it genius, keep dreaming, and yes I "love" my job and what I do, come watch us work sometime, you can find me in Syosset.

 
At 7:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

But shoving that all aside, all in all. Everyone hates the company they work for, no one truly loves there job, unless they own a Multi-Million dollar corporation. So the tale of who's better, who's job sucks more. Can honestly go on forever and ever. Like the blogger says.

Could not be further from the truth, you do not have to love your job, but at least be able to tolerate it, and have conditions that make people grow and have a career. I am getting just that after leaving TSG and nothing will ever be as bad as what I went through their. I feel like I am stealing money compared to what was expected their...and the biggie, I am respected and given trust in many areas. I have nobody nobody watching me like a hawk, because I know what has to be done and think I am old enough to figure it out and do it right. Days and weeks go by so much quicker, and did I mention the Pay, vacation, and a pension....Think you have been their too long, look around, nobody is as miserable as you guys.

p.s. Hey Verizon tech, don't even bother..this guy will never understand.

 
At 8:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone post a link from disgruntled verizon employee blog. My guess its worse than one from cablevision. I also see you lazy Verizon lazy ass bastards parked on my block and eating lunch and talking 8-6 instead of doing your job. By the way, You, VZ chicken, lose more customers to cablevision each day that you end up doing various tricks to make customers blame cablevision for all faults in the world and they end up staying with VZ.

 
At 9:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Verizon Tech:

I am afraid you won't find a blog because we are treated very well, so keep guessing. What's the matter...jealous? yes, we just sit around and eat lunch for 8 hours straight talking..get real, I guess that's how we have all our fiber run ahead of schedule... it's called having a real job with real conditions....but look at what I am arguing with..you work for Cablevision...love seeing your field tech all by himself in bad weather conditions, guess they really care for your safety. I guess having contractors doing a half ass job is a better solution..get real kid.

 
At 9:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Verizon tech, don't even waste your time on these idiots..these few guys(management or their puppets, Verizon rejects from your company)are convinced everyone in a union is lazy and never get anything done. It's that anti union perception. They would rather use contractors or send someone out 5x before they find the problem or get it right the first time...pretty great way of doing things, I know. I apologize for I don't know where these freaks came from...who is the smarter person, the guy that works his ass off and is pushed to his limit for peanuts, or the guy that has an honest days work and conditions for even more money...who raised you people..not to smart are they.

 
At 11:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

VZ tech. it s not your forum and it is not a forum for jerks like you. IF everything is so good with VZ why don't you offer naked DSL? in addition your company's FIOS is many years too late. 802.16 will make anything that uses cable or fiber obsolete. FIOS is only a short term solution and when your management realizes how much money they wasted, trust me a lot of your coworkers and may be you will lose jobs.

 
At 4:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Verizon Tech:

LOL....Do you really know the limitations of fiber?....FIOS is not to late for all those that are itching to get away from cable, actually..it's about time is what I am hearing..It will be around a lot longer than your cable.

Hey no hard feelings kid, I am in touch with many of your field techs and I hear nothing but horror stories. They are all dying to get out and are always asking me if there are any openings, actually got a few in, a shame because some seem like real good workers. You can take customers away from competition, steal, lie and cheat your monopoly into remaining in power but cry when their is a little fair competition...But hey we shall see who wins in the end.

 
At 6:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cablevision turns over more employees and jobs to power a turbine and feed electricty across Long Island.

 
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At 6:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, It has been awfully quiet all of a sudden...guess management had said something to the idiots posting from work. To much union talk, let it die down....Let them start monitoring all these sites...LOL...just keep putting your foot in your mouths when it's just the same reply over and over...tell us to just leave, or, I dont wasnt to earn a better living, I don't want my job to be a career ...listen to you freaks...I don't want things to get any better and I don't even want to try because I am happy the way things are at Cablevision..I love being treated like a peasant..It's so fake or so sad, I dont know what emotion to feel.

 
At 1:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

verizon tech:

I have already seen your people spying on our every move...just dying to find out what the competition is doing...lol, maybe I'll approach that car one day and offer him a real job.

 
At 1:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Think I have the record for hold time..LOL

 
At 7:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To VZ tech:
I want to rephrase JFK. It is not that you work ahead of time, its that standards given to you are too low. Your management already knows that they have a bunch of lazy ass employees who they cannot trust to do more work.

 
At 1:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Verizon tech:

Standards are too low..lol..no it's called a real job with real conditions..something you can do for 30 years and retire, not just burnout and leave like your employees do...listen jack ass, I worked for your pathetic company and was offerd a real Job at Verizon, Why would I stay at CV and get treated the way you guys do? Just because we are union you can go on and on about us being lazy...truth is I am happy to show up for work each and every day and I don't have to dread my shift...that is the difference. But I guess you love being pushed to your limit everyday like all your employees, You love doing more for less..listen to yourself. Where do you people come from Mexico? We will gladly stay after for overtime and It is called respect and having a voice and sticking together, thats why we get all that we do...something you would know nothing about, because you love being pushed around for nothing in return. Good luck in trying to retire at CV, I bet it won't happen. I will retire like a normal american citizen at Verizon and do a quarter of what I did at CV, you see, it's not being lazy...it's working like a human being, not a machine and being smart! At least I get a lunch unlike your field techs... Don't you have some calls to take?

 
At 1:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love this peception you clowns have that everyone in a union is lazy...lol...It's the mentality of the people at your company, all the brainwashing they do...I bet you never had a real job before..I know guys that work just as hard here at Verizon as people do anywhere else, but again the difference is they can make a living and retire. And guess what..our company is still making money with all we are offered...you pathetic clown, you'll grow up one day kid.

 
At 9:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear VZ guy.
You just proved my point why do companies outsource and how are unions to blame. If you only work 1/4 of a time and get 2x salary, don't you think that it sounds great for outsourcing co, which pays 2-3 per hr?

 
At 7:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unions are to blame for outsourcing?...wake up kid...most companies that are outsourcing have no unions. Greed, and competition are the main factors there. Unions are trying to preserve a decent living....outsourcing... thats what you are afraid of, do you really think every job is looking to outsource and does it even make sense for most?...ya we work 1/4 of the time..lol.. I bet you were never in a union but you know all about them right. Just keep hopping from job to job until you end up in a union or civil service job with state or government, then you will realize you can finally make a living.

 
At 10:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I was a member of a union on several occasions and I still have a negative opinion of them. I also witnessed one organization as it became unionized and workers who did their job became as lazy as hell. Try to tell lazy union jerk to get off his ass and do his work. As a reminder most thing that you have a made somewhere else outside US. Even Jeans you wear are made somewhere else. These jobs used to be here, in the US of A. Some that are still here are unionized. BTW most of these companies moved offshore in 60-80s. They replaced US union workforce with cheap labor. Should I provide another example of losing union jobs to offshore companies? So wake up. If we have lazy asses like this we will lose everything and trust me your union will not save you.

 
At 4:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's going to save us the way thing are currently?

 
At 10:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well it's obvious you have a grudge against unions for whatever the reason, I think I know why...anyway, I wonder what unions you wee involved in? It's typical of anyone who hates unions, but is not educated in them..we are all lazy, nothing ever gets done..we all sit on our asses and take lunch all day...LOL, thats why all big projects are done by unions, government jobs are union, all good paying jobs are union...when they want something done right or any government project, major construction ...it's done by a unionized workforce...why? because there is a level of trust and comes with a stamp of approval. People know the quality work they will receive, why would they just hire Joe shmo who has no backing or guarantee to do it right just for less?...It's called keeping people working with honest conditions and honest compensation to make a living...I know, I guess that company you speak of had all employees go through a transformation over night and everyone became lazy because they organized...LOL....So you said; The hell with all of you, I want to work like a slave and have no say in anything, I want to give up all my benefits, pension,have no future.. etc. and make less money while I work harder" right....ya, tht makes sense...Do you realize how hard it is to get a union job?...why? because nobody leaves and they know they can retire their in most cases....what a pathetic story. I love your examples of the textile and garment industries which have been done cheaper for over 30 years...won't happen in construction, utilities and other industries moron. I started with a union at 21...had nothing but garbage jobs in between because I went to school and thought I could do better. 15 years later, this all climaxed at Cablevision and I was done with bullshit jobs and being treasted like an ant, while kiss ass people less qualified than I, moved up...it was the last straw. I am now in a Union again with Verizon, and once again as in the begining, I am making decent money to live and have a future to retire with. I will move up and get decent raises, I will and do get treated with respect. I work with decent conditions and people that will not burn me out. This will be my last job search if I can help it, and I will make a good living, get decent raises, family time, and retire with benefits...can you say the same....certainly not at Cablevision, that's for sure. Good luck in trying.

 
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